Comments on: Lake Of Fire http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/ I'm not together, but I'm getting there Sun, 20 Jul 2008 15:54:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: ashley http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32902 ashley Thu, 08 May 2008 04:11:54 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32902 This is an issue I struggle with. On one hand, I believe that abortion is wrong, and I think it is terrible, both for the fetus and the mother. BUT, do I think it should be illegal? No. Studies have shown that in countries where abortion is illegal, the abortion rates aren't any lower than in countries where abortion is legal. The only difference is in the safety of the procedure. So, I would hate to see abortion outlawed in America, because of all the health-risks that would arise from unsanitary and unsafe abortions (that scene in Dirty Dancing rings a bell...). I think that abstinence education is a joke. It just doesn't work! This is one issue that I am in agreement with the Clintons 100%--their view is that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. And they've said that by "rare" they mean almost unheard of. I am fresh out of ideas on how to achieve that though....I'm sure it will take a couple generations at least to reach that goal. This is an issue I struggle with. On one hand, I believe that abortion is wrong, and I think it is terrible, both for the fetus and the mother. BUT, do I think it should be illegal? No. Studies have shown that in countries where abortion is illegal, the abortion rates aren’t any lower than in countries where abortion is legal. The only difference is in the safety of the procedure. So, I would hate to see abortion outlawed in America, because of all the health-risks that would arise from unsanitary and unsafe abortions (that scene in Dirty Dancing rings a bell…). I think that abstinence education is a joke. It just doesn’t work! This is one issue that I am in agreement with the Clintons 100%–their view is that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. And they’ve said that by “rare” they mean almost unheard of. I am fresh out of ideas on how to achieve that though….I’m sure it will take a couple generations at least to reach that goal.

]]> By: fightingwindmills http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32842 fightingwindmills Sat, 03 May 2008 01:11:03 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32842 Thanks for helping me figure it out, Brian. Thanks for helping me figure it out, Brian.

]]> By: Brian http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32841 Brian Fri, 02 May 2008 19:45:38 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32841 I don't think it was included in the soundtrack. The film took that title from the many references that pro-lifers made to abortion doctors and recipients burning in a lake of fire. I did some research and it seems that there might be a connection between 4th of July fireworks and the end of the world. There is a song by Soundgarden called "4th of July" that seems to be referring to the end of the world. I dunno... Just a thought. I don’t think it was included in the soundtrack. The film took that title from the many references that pro-lifers made to abortion doctors and recipients burning in a lake of fire.

I did some research and it seems that there might be a connection between 4th of July fireworks and the end of the world. There is a song by Soundgarden called “4th of July” that seems to be referring to the end of the world.

I dunno… Just a thought.

]]> By: fightingwindmills http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32838 fightingwindmills Fri, 02 May 2008 18:58:44 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32838 Me too! Is it in the documentary soundtrack? The only part of that song that I don't get is the reference to the 4th of July. Do you have any insight? Me too! Is it in the documentary soundtrack? The only part of that song that I don’t get is the reference to the 4th of July. Do you have any insight?

]]> By: Brian http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32826 Brian Thu, 01 May 2008 20:18:36 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32826 I love that Nirvana song!! I love that Nirvana song!!

]]> By: fightingwindmills http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32824 fightingwindmills Thu, 01 May 2008 20:02:32 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32824 Where do bad folks go when they die? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVvkNp4GdA Well, I liked American History X, so I would like to see this documentary (same director). Thanks for blogging about it, Brian. Where do bad folks go when they die?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oVvkNp4GdA

Well, I liked American History X, so I would like to see this documentary (same director). Thanks for blogging about it, Brian.

]]> By: mario http://inrepair.net/2008/04/30/lake-of-fire/#comment-32814 mario Thu, 01 May 2008 05:48:01 +0000 http://inrepair.wordpress.com/?p=2139#comment-32814 The procedure is terrible, and I, personally, am against casual abortion. However, the larger issue is how far does state control go, and that's where I need to draw the line. On the one hand, abortion seems to be used by, frankly, careless women; on the other, it seems like the issue has gotten overblown because of the right's prudish desire to micromanage sexual activity. Call me cynical, but I just don't believe, as the right seems so fervently to do, that folks will change their sexual behavior just because abortion is illegal. That assumes constant rational decision making, which, let's face it, is a myth. (This also underlies my reservations about gun ownership.) RU-386 ought to be legal and available to those women who need it. So, of course, should condoms. Abstinence should be taught, even emphasized, but not exclusively. I truly wish abortions were never done, but the correct approach is not state fiat. Rather, a robust pre-, peri- and neo-natal support system, with strong support for adoptions must be available, and let's get rid of the stigma, too. The procedure is terrible, and I, personally, am against casual abortion. However, the larger issue is how far does state control go, and that’s where I need to draw the line. On the one hand, abortion seems to be used by, frankly, careless women; on the other, it seems like the issue has gotten overblown because of the right’s prudish desire to micromanage sexual activity.

Call me cynical, but I just don’t believe, as the right seems so fervently to do, that folks will change their sexual behavior just because abortion is illegal. That assumes constant rational decision making, which, let’s face it, is a myth. (This also underlies my reservations about gun ownership.)

RU-386 ought to be legal and available to those women who need it. So, of course, should condoms. Abstinence should be taught, even emphasized, but not exclusively. I truly wish abortions were never done, but the correct approach is not state fiat. Rather, a robust pre-, peri- and neo-natal support system, with strong support for adoptions must be available, and let’s get rid of the stigma, too.

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